Bubba and Spice were talking about it not going the way they thought it would, then Bubba asked if it was the overthinkers getting in the way and Spice said yes. Then Bubba guessed it was Bean, and Spice said higher up than that. Then Bubba said oh, Rizand? Then he said that there aren't many people in this industry that he would back down from, but he was one of them...
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