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QaB2i

04/25/11 11:51 PM

#4350 RE: whatthef #4349

maybe NIR has a few ?

wadya fink PD?.. howzat liric go agin?....won't get fooled again...//

why would a bank make an obvious "going to lose its shirt" convertible/hybrid loan at all?
How would that Bank hedge against 100% loss of the loan assuming the Bank makes the daft loan? & assuming such hedge trade were possible for 100% of the loan face, is it also possible to hedge ....1000% or more of the face?


then

Could that same Bank report a steady increasing profit year in year out through the above activities?

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jurisper

04/26/11 12:53 AM

#4351 RE: whatthef #4349

The "operating agreement" I saw filed in one of the NY supreme court cases seemed to say that Corey was responsible for the valuations. How investors could agree to that kind of arrangement has always been beyond me. Assuming that they did, think it would be tough sledding to pin much financial liability on anybody deep-pocketed third party.

Re slowness: Possible that Corey is wearing a wire for the feds now?

Firsk

04/26/11 12:07 PM

#4360 RE: whatthef #4349

Here's how I got taken.

I invested with them because of their track record (as one of the best-performing hedge funds), plus I liked the idea of investing in small emerging companies. Corey never named the companies, and I had no idea that they were all penny and sub-penny stocks. He always talked about them very positively: their ingenius inventions, their valuable patents, their glowing prospects, etc. It irked me a little, his not naming the companies, but I thought maybe he was under confidentiality restraints. And once those positive returns started coming in, I really didn't care any more. When you're seeing rising numbers on your statements, month after month, year after year, without fail, it's mesmerizing! Every month, he made either a little money or a lot of money, but it was always something no matter what the market was doing; he never reported a loss. And the idea that the results were phony never occurred to me. After all, there was an independent accounting firm involved, and we were getting audited tax statements, etc. I honestly never questioned it. Plus, Corey kept feeding us all that stuff about his mammoth charity work, and I'll admit: it got to me. Here was a guy with integrity. Here was a decent, upstanding, compassionate guy who gives his time and money to the children, the homeless, and the animals. Surely, a guy like that has got to be honest in business and especially with his own partners, right?