really its churning 6 to 8 ...havn't seen 8's 4 sometime now those are gone 4 now unless some crazy flufffffy p/r comes out AGAIN.....and how many times can u keep putting out these crying wolfe pr's hahaaaaa 99 percent of these pr's have never been followed up on .... i dont know what world u live in but that is a huge RED FLAG...... how many times can u cry wolfe