"What c't(Stiller) is saying is that K9 is K8 quad core"
Not only that, it is a quad core without much in the way of enhancements. I think the "processor that follows the K8 that isn't just a dual core", whatever it is being called today, will have some changes from the current K8 core. No, I don't know what they are going to be, but I doubt if it will perform like a current 4-way, but be on a single chip. Now I personally think that AMD should go ahead and do a quad core chip, just in case that the PTFKTIJDC runs into some problems, but...