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Rawnoc

02/18/11 11:04 PM

#93865 RE: the big guy #93859

Dead wrong across the board.

(1). Your claim was employees costs $100 per hour. My article and reality supports more like $26 per hour.

(2). Overhead is not $74 per hour. It's not even $7 per hour. They have a steel locker. The same kind you'd find at a middle school. There is little to zero overhead.

(3). I'm not "missing" the "highly paid person" -- he's the dude making $25 per hour instead of $16 like his assistant and is all included. You are talking baseless fantasy. I'm talking reality. I was there until 2am then came in early the next day. All night was two operators. One making $16 per hour. One making $25 per hour. Both making fuel all night. Nobody else there but those two and their steel lockers. Their jobs are so easy that at least one of them described it ad the easiest job in the world. The only reason two of them were even there is because the law requires it. Otherwise it can literally be run by zero people most of the time. It's that easy to operate.

(4) The meeting room is not overhead for the operators and has no cost.

(5). The lockers have no cost. No overhead. They last 50 years and cost nothing to replace.

To claim these hourly workers are prohibitive to making a profit is laughable.
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techisbest

02/19/11 11:00 AM

#93880 RE: the big guy #93859

the_big_guy:

this plant requires at least one much more highly-paid person to be present while the plant is in operation (because of the safety aspects)



Will you stop, already, with this line of reasoning? It's ridiculous.

Every one of us operates a machine every day that is more dangerous than the P2O processor.

It's called a car.

The P2O operation is not the huge safety concern you profess. There are no fast moving parts to get hands stuck in. There is nothing under high pressure.

Sure, that furnace is hot, but so what?

Everything is self-contained and monitored.

The biggest risk is the forklift operation. So you should be using forklift operators as your guide for employee costs.

Here's an example for you:
http://www.logisticsjobsite.com/job.asp?id=30848242&aff=AC44BA2E-E3EB-4DBC-8BDB-9FCE01C58B09


Forklift Operator
Categories: Material Moving, Manufacturing/Production Skilled Trades

Now hiring!

We are looking to fill several positions with Forklift Operators. The prime candidate will have a great personality, work well in a team environment and be able to follow directions accordingly.

The ideal candidate will be reliable, have great customer service skills, follow safety guidelines and be productive.

$12.00 - $13.00 per hour plus benefits


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Zardiw

02/19/11 11:40 AM

#93885 RE: the big guy #93859

How in the world do you build machines without a machine shop?....I'd REALLY like to know.

And what if something breaks or gets bent......how ya gonna fix it without the tools to do so?

And did you forget that all this is NEW Technology? It's getting BUILT and REVISED, and MAINTAINED by guess what?

Give up?

A Machine Shop that has the tools and capability to do the above...........z
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BRIG_88

02/19/11 7:32 PM

#93904 RE: the big guy #93859

btw, they don't need a machine shop either. What a waste of money. Someone's playground ..... ROFLMFAO!!! JBII or any company for that matter could NOT run a plant without a machine shop....period....there's an endless list of things to be done requiring a machine shop and employees with the skills to use it.....what are they gonna do?....call Sears repair when something needs to be fixed?....Hilarious!