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Tenchu

11/27/02 4:15 PM

#2808 RE: bababouie #2805

C, <I think AMD's rating holds no matter what apps they use to determine it.>

You almost got it right. AMD's rating holds no matter what, period.

Contrary to Droidian belief, it is NOT determined by benchmarks or application performance. Instead, it is arbitrarily determined by market positioning. For example, if AMD thinks an Opteron should be positioned against a Xeon 3.4 GHz, they'll just name it a 3400. Simple as that, and they'll leave the validation of that rating to the reviewers (and their rubber-stamp auditing system).

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11/27/02 6:04 PM

#2811 RE: bababouie #2805

think AMD's rating holds no matter what apps they use to determine it

Then you clearly have no idea how AMD determines their ratings.
Let us suppose that AMD chooses, for example, a suite of Photoshop, and Discreet applications and benchmarks, optimized for Pentium 4s SSE2 and SMT (hyperthreading).
You think AMD's quantinumbers for (as an example) a 2 GHz Athlon XP will be the same as they currently quote it, when compared to a 3.06 GHz Pentium for with a 533 FSB?
No.
Why?

Because you probably naively believe AMD's propoganda that their quantinumbers are referenced to a Palomino or other AMD product which can't even be run at the rated speeds for comparison.

In fact, maybe you have never seen AMD's literature - have you?

They have distributed Quantinumber charts for dealers - and each Athlon wxyz quantinumber was compared to a Pentium 4 with wxyz MHz - a direct confirmation of their subterfuge.
Send me your email address and I'll send you copy of AMD's literature.

-SZ