There are still ways to win but it's beyond the scope of my goodwill offerin. I find it unwise to tell folks how to invest or where. I'm just a theoretical kinda dude that doesn't like stupidity, ya might say. That seems to get me involved with those who are stupid as well as those that have a beef or agenda regardin those types. I usually end up talkin about companies like HLNT by means of the back door. By that I mean I don't look at them as an investment play but instead am usually lookin at the people involved.