Hugh, I think I told you this before. If you have questions about the company, call and talk to anyone there. They are NOT going to play games online where things can be taken so out of context and then reposted a billion times with the click of a month and the flick of a wrist.
They have asked all their people not to respond to anything online due to the fact that they lost a significant sale because posters kept calling the company.
Quit posting all your nonsense. I don't know where you live, but if you live within a decent radius, go to the company. I have talked to all these people numerous times on the phone and I have also GONE there. They are real. They are on the up and up. quit trying to save us from ourselves when we are the ones who did the due diligence, not you.