Replies to post #84780 on Plastic2Oil Inc (PTOI)

[Justice37]

There are 3 kinds of radiation (gamma, beta, neutron). Heavy water is (I think...) D2O. Deuterium (2) and Oxygen (1). If I remember it right Tritium is D3O.

Anyway, the point is, it can get into a human via ingestion, absorption, or penetration. In layman's terms, if it gets spilled on you, that is BAD. Since it is basically water, and has a half-life of 50000 years, if you get it in you, you have to drink water and go peepee until it no longer is in your system. It can take days..

...In the oil and gas industry, the bad stuff is benzene. Don't know why, just is.

Hmmm, nuclear radiation vs. possible benzine.

Benzene is an organic chemical compound with the molecular formula C6H6. It is sometimes abbreviated Ph–H. Benzene is a colorless and highly flammable liquid with a sweet smell. Because it is a known carcinogen, its use as an additive in gasoline is now limited, but it is an important industrial solvent and precursor in the production of drugs, plastics, synthetic rubber, and dyes. Benzene is a natural constituent of crude oil, and may be synthesized from other compounds present in petroleum. Benzene is an aromatic hydrocarbon and the second [n]-annulene ([6]-annulene), a cyclic hydrocarbon with a continuous pi bond. It is also related to the functional group arene which is a generalized structure of benzene.

Benzine seems to be a non-issue, a lot of things are removed from oil in order for plastic to be produced, that is why the diesel is so clean. They may use it at the fuel blending site but those permits have been given.

However, I remember listening to the CC and thinking that you were right about a couple of things. When it's up on the website, I'll have another listen and let you know what in particular, there was a lot of information and I really couldn't explain it well right now.

[the big guy]

I just looked up Tritium. I was completely wrong about what it was... been a long time... lol..

point is.. the bigger picture is more important, something JBI has to keep in mind.

[GWMAN]

The comparison of the nuclear industry to P2O is something NO scienctist would do.

While nuclear physics/chemistry alone is very different and much more complicated than the chemistry in the P2O machine, the regulatory framework for the two differ so much that comparison of the two has no basis in reality.

There is a reason why in the US many radiological regulatory responsibilities fall under the NRC and NOT the EPA.

BTW, if you are going to continue to post about the nuclear industry, at least try to get extremely basic facts correct.

1. You use the word "nuclide" wrong. Tritium, an unstable isotope of Hydrogen, has 2 extra neutrons not "nuclides"

2. Tritium does not emit "nuclides". Beta radiation is not nuclides or neutrons. It is electrons or positrons.

3. D3O is not the scientific notation of what you are trying to say, as that means 3 D atoms bound to a single O. Tritiated water has to titium atoms bound to Oxygen, T2O or 3H2O (with the 3 being a superscript).

4. Tritium has a half-life of a bit over 12 years, NOT 50,000 years. By the way, its biological half life in the human body is only about 10 days.

5. There are not 3 types of radiation as you list it. If you are going to include neutron radiation then there are at 5: alpha, beta, gamma, X and neutron. And I know squat about radiation so there could be more in the never-ending world of physics.

But again, the key message is if you are going to continue with the crazy comparison of the nuclear world to P2O, at least get your extremely basic nuclear subject matter correct.