I did not write off UPDV. The unique diff of UPDV is that it actually owns 52% of HTOG and with HTOG convertable bonds it increase its hold to 70%. So even though UPDV is no longer traded, ownership is still there which means UPDV has assets. I own all together 550,000 shares of UPDV. Hey maybe you and I can get together, with our shares combined, write a letter to SEC and see if we can take controll of UPDV. After all a good case can be made that the current officers are inept for not following SEC guide lines.