Farrago, I have not said one bad thing about Troy this entire time. I did not sell because I am in this for the long. And come dec 1st I will buy more. And I was not trading with money I couldn't afford to loose. I am still in the green. The thing is I just am in shock at the horrific responce that I just witnissed. Remember I am still new to trading. I sent troy a very polite letter only asking what does all this mean and can he help me understand. I don't think you have ever seen me contuct myself in an un gentlemanly way. Fair enouph?