Oh yeah, that Itronically Speaking thing. Yes, I did read it. I was impressed, gramps, seriously. It's still Greek to me but I was impressed. Very well done. You should work with Whit on the ITRO website. Have some of that chem techie stuff in there and see if he'll make it a little more appealing to the newbies. I think it's safe to assume you are high on Whit's chem genius. What's it going to take to convert that into $$$ for all of us? Besides "PATIENCE"! LOL (beat ya to it;-))