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Rawnoc

11/21/10 12:32 PM

#77922 RE: terryels #77921

You are always a breath of fresh air. I always pointed out that ethanol figures out how to make a profit despite having massively expensive feedstock so surely having free feedstock doesn't take a lot of imagination, but I like your break down of the numbers and vast real world experience far better.

fourkids_9pets

11/21/10 12:34 PM

#77923 RE: terryels #77921

posts very much appreciated .. thanks

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PaperProphet

11/21/10 1:38 PM

#77931 RE: terryels #77921

Re:<"WTI prices are for raw crude which contain high levels of sulfur, water, sediment, and other containments. Plastics are highly refined hydrocarbons. As the back-end of the JBI process is a microrefinery, I would expect them to receive much more than WTI for their fuel.">

Great! Maybe I will set up a pyrolysis machine and process plastics with a catalyst. It's not Mr. Bordynuik's secret catalyst but it's another catalyst of which you don't know the composition. So now my process is exactly equal to JBII's in your eyes.

I expect you will give my contemplated setup the same optimistic prognosis. Am I right? If not, what do you see as the difference between mine and JBII's?

Zardiw

11/21/10 2:28 PM

#77945 RE: terryels #77921

Excellent Post. And Excellent Point:

WTI prices are for raw crude which contain high levels of sulfur, water, sediment, and other containments. Plastics are highly refined hydrocarbons. As the back-end of the JBI process is a microrefinery, I would expect them to receive much more than WTI for their fuel.



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OverDraught

11/21/10 4:05 PM

#77949 RE: terryels #77921

Thanks for your comments.

When I was researching JBI I spoke with a chemistry professor who described P2O as a simplified FCC process, and that it was not a new concept. I recall from one of your posts that you are a refinery engineer (correct?), so I would appreciate knowing if you agree with his assessment. If not, how is it different from FCC?

TIA