These are the exact same products Gelmon promised in his PR about his new Bre line. A huge wall of red flags went up the moment I saw that PR. It's fall now, no sign of the products. Perhaps we still need to wait for the summer line of shoes. There aren't too many places North of Texas where it would make sense to wear suede shoes in the Winter. If the JF shoes were even real, they would flop at this time of the year. Common sense.