Bobwins/Len thanks for input. When I bght DTNOF.PK I did estimate price and put bid in and got at 6.45 usd. However, it seems it is not updated like the canadians. Also bgt some STHJF.PK your pick which is updated and TRDLF.PK which hasn't been updated. If energy has more to go some of the CAN that KOZ and Patent mentioned may be viable. The Patent stocks come from Crossy who appears to be an a pro in international o&g. The only US he likes are ARD and GMXR.