Replies to post #11715 on Petro America Corp. (fka PTRZ)

[dhrr06]

I'm curious, what was the biggest lie Owen told, that tipped you off to this scam??? For me, it was the lie that the TA was taking so long, because they were doing "background checks" on us....

That was actually the moment I woke up and decided to get my money back....but looking back...there were so many lies he told...he trained everyone pretty well not to question him.

[REDDOG22]

Nothing Free Share Tuesday, November 02, 2010 6:10:36 PM
Re: Mike500 post# 11697 Post # of 11717

Now that he has been taken to court and he himself admitted that he has nothing to show forth of investor money but cars, furs and expensive luggage...
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I have not read or seen anywhere that Owen Hawkins said that...

*ATDB*
*SIST*
*ATHT*

[flaflyersfan]

Nothing Free, great post;

No job, no income, no filing with the IRS for 15 years...but withdraws stolen money like it is his;

DateTimeAmountTypeNote
10/09/20084:37 PM$5,000.00cash
10/11/200812:23 PM$8,000.00cash
10/14/200812:23 PM$8,000.00cash
10/14/200812:24 PM$8,000.00cash
10/14/20085:06 PM$8,000.00cash
10/14/20085:09 PM$8,000.00cash
10/14/20085:14 PM$9,000.00cash
10/15/20085:16 PM$9,000.00cash
10/17/20085:06 PM$9,500.00cash
10/20/20082:45 PM$9,500.00cash
10/20/200812:01 PM$9,500.00cash
10/21/2008$9,500.00checkcash
10/23/2008$9,000.00checkcash
10/24/2008$8,000.00checkcash
10/24/20085:16 PM$8,000.00cash
TOTAL$126,000.00

...but shamelessly "passes the hat" to pay for the hotel room meetings.

Disgusting.

I am certain the CEO will drop a dime on those around him trying to get off lighter. Now would be a bad time for friends and family members to speak as a representative of Petro America.

Good luck.

[dhrr06]

According to Affinity Scams, victims that sell and take active part in the scam by promoting it in any way are subject to the same laws as the ones actually controlling the scam. Ignorance is not an exception to the law. Unfortunately, nice people get in trouble right along with the ones creating the scam. The reason, "the law believes it is everyone’s responsibility to investigate and do DD on any business opportunity, before taking part in it." They will investigate, and sometimes when they find out they didn't know, if they cooperate with the officials, charges are reduced, fines and sentences as well...

It doesn't seem quite fair, and that's one of the reasons I was concerned about people invested in Petro...Affinity scam is the worst, because we know our friends and know their good characters and think they have checked things out. But it's really up to each individual, to check things out.
The government all along, with the cease and desist orders, were cluing investors into this being questionable...so I feel like they were putting brakes on it from the beginning...it's just that people will read something and dismiss it, because it's not what they want to think about it...they don't have deductive reasoning, and if they do, they don't take warning and act on it.

http://www.eagleresearchassociates.org/red-flags.php

This link to the website used to have a very good article about affinity scams. It also stated the law about if you took part unknowingly, that you were just as responsible as those perpetrating the scam.

I hope these links answers some questions.

http://www.bustathief.com/affinity-fraud-affinity-scam/

There may be more information available if you google...