It really does not matter to me how many he owns, because the only thing that will finally prove that AVTI is not a scam is a P.R. with information on the shoes. I have heard people say he definitely own shares and I have heard people say he owns no shares. The only thing that matters at this point is the shoes being shipped and ready to be sent to distributors. Believe me if this was a scam no one would be taking any of our calls, there would be P.R. after P.R. telling everyone that things that do not matter. Unfortunately, the PPS has fallen so low, but sometimes that is how it goes. Remember Warren Buffet, said that the stock market is simply the transfer of wealth from the impatient to the patient. While, my patience is running thinner that I hoped with this stock I will not be selling any time soon. I believe that when the P.R. is released and the shoes are shipped, that this thing could easily run .005+ or even pennies depending on the information in the P.R. and the momentum, but that is MO. GLTY I have to go do some things now so I won't be posting for a while, GLTY and GO AVTI.