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Roberto7

09/16/10 12:17 PM

#16549 RE: HOSS #16548

Nice work!!

bond6007

09/16/10 12:18 PM

#16550 RE: HOSS #16548

Thanks for sharing this - Great DD! This should probably be stickied. The only concerning thing is production has not yet completed. Hopefully they'll wrap things up and release a PR next week.

Amee

09/16/10 12:22 PM

#16551 RE: HOSS #16548

Ahh, thanks for that, hopefully this clears up some issues for some members in here, otherwise they will find themselves stuck with their delusions again.

Hope to add more soon.

GLTYT

kevinsPENNY

09/16/10 12:41 PM

#16552 RE: HOSS #16548

Excellent post and follow up! I like your DD and detailed information, thank you!

liable

09/16/10 12:42 PM

#16553 RE: HOSS #16548

You didn't read between the lines of that lip service you were given?

1. A typo would have been corrected, mistakes cannot be left to stand in SEC filings.

2. Production still in the works? Over a month ago there was a PR saying it was nearly finished and shipping would have been completed by now. Be wary of delays of self imposed deadlines.

3. Cory said they 'will' get their money back first. Did he forget a previous PR where the entire production run was pretty much already 'sold out'? He would have received money by now.

4. When he mentions in the PR, "stores such as Nordstroms.." it does not mean there will ever be product in Nordstrom, and it's Nordstrom by the way, not Nordstroms as in the PR and 8-k.

5. If Johnny has informed Avitar where the shoes are going, why couldn't Cory inform you?

6. "No Plans of dilution" is a famous Pink Sheet CEO term. They never say "there will be no dilution."

7. A few old convertible debentures??? Isn't AVTI a reletively new company? This brings back the issue of the NIR Group and AJW Partners debt of $6M or so from the 2005 AVTI filings. I would consider those 'old debentures'. Given the filings stated those mature between September 2010 and December 2010, I would be watching the A/S very closely. I'm pretty sure it will multiply soon.

8. Major talks with whom? He can't say because of regulation FD? Issue a PR then.

These are the red flags I picked up on from your post, there may have been more, but I didn't hear the entire conversation.

Good luck. You might want to check out the boards of Gelmon's other companies. You will see many people who have got off the phone with him feeling great about their investment. I'm going out on a limb, but I don't think that after a 1:100 R/S or being diluted to zero bid, they still feel the same.
Also note the membermark average of people who are impressed by those types of phone calls is always very low, indicating lack of experience.

wise1man

09/16/10 12:44 PM

#16554 RE: HOSS #16548

Hosspeppe, GREAT DD...this is all the news we need for us long.And not the pump and Dump type of news,They should only PR quality news..We know what we have and most business will take times..As far as the the roaches,scarecrows or boogeyman in this board,go ahead go scare thsoe wabbits, I WILL LOAD UP the TRUCKS,BOATS OR THE HOUSES...if they fell for your TRICKS...BUT HEY, DON'T WORRY, I WILL SELL IT BACK IN THE PENNYLAND...just my honest 2 cents..

46er

09/16/10 12:54 PM

#16555 RE: HOSS #16548

HP- Thanks for sharing. I too have talked with Gelmon (only took me about 3 tries to get through each time). He also spoke with me about talks of future JV agreements, witch IMO will be larger deals than this one.
When the PR comes out with news of this run of shoes plus the particulars of future deals, stockholders will be rewarded. Womens line of shoes, handbags and I'm sure another run of mens shoes- sounds good to me. Fashion sells.
At this PPS, I need to free up some funds and add to my position here. It won't be long now.

LemmeRetire

09/16/10 1:17 PM

#16557 RE: HOSS #16548

Thank you sir, hopefully this will stop all the diatribes against Gelmon and AVTI, I doubt it though. They will probably just call an audible, and bring up either the thrown out court case or the cleared up spelling mistake. I think that in the next few weeks this thing will run. JMO

hugh_jackoman

09/16/10 1:24 PM

#16559 RE: HOSS #16548

If it's a typo you would think they would make some type of public acknowledgment. The company wouldn't just be telling people who call. GET REAL.

I think you never called and have some shares to sell.

LemmeRetire

09/20/10 1:21 PM

#16794 RE: HOSS #16548

Thank you sir for posting some information regarding AVTI. I think based on what you said and when I spoke with Mr. Gelmon that we will see a P.R. this week. Thanks again