I think you guys are duped into thinking too much about the boys. The institutions are very much into utilizing maths, probabilities and physics for trading. I beleive they more or less end up with the same conclusion. That's why we see the herd mentality in progress and like a giant elephant making turns. I guess I have posted the charts already...all you have to do is trade the 7th times this year and for 1 OEX contract you would have made approximately twelve thousand dollars since January.