There are several other companies offering a far superior service to EFLN, IMO. I was in san fran a few weeks ago and there was an advertisment that ran several times a day on a local station. I should'vee written down the site, i didn't, have been trying to remember since. I think you are right with regard to flipping a pink such as EFLN. However my arguments are always about the prospect and viability of actual long term investment opportunity for investors. I try to determine that by attempting to verify the info they offer. As long as the concverstaion remains about flipping strategy/techniques and not encouraging holders to reamin long, hit the ask, support the bid, than i have no issue. GLTY Dog