Replies to post #323 on Zeev's Turnips Talk Politics (ZTTP)

[sarai]

Fred, What a crock of chitt that is!
I can assure you I am no I am no supporter of the Arafat Brigade and all associated thug organizations. But what about the right of the Palestinian people to "exist"? "There are no Palestinians"??? Then what are they, if not their own ethnic "group"? Don't the Palestinian People have a right to exist as there own ethic group?? They live in Israel and a solution has got to be found. Firm boundries need to be established if there is ever to be any hope that the two ethnic groups can exist in Israel (both believing Israel is their "home") without the violence and open hatred.

The article reaks of Kahane Chai, or Kach, the Jewish terrorist groups who believed Arabs have no right to live in Israel, at all, and preached the most vile racist, hateful rhetoric.

The issue with Israel is that all three major religions believe Israel is their HolyLand. The three trace the roots of their faith back to Israel. Blood has been shed for thousands of years because of this. The issue of "devine right" is a subjective one. It depends on who you ask. To that extent, devine right is in the eye of the beholder.

IMO, to deny the Palestinians their right to exist is horribly offensive. Before we're Jews, Christians, Muslims, Hindus, whatever, we are humans and we all have a right to exist, the right to an identity and the right to exist as part of a larger group. We all have a right to a secure and stable home. Those are basic human rights.

I find that article offensive. Furthermore, I think that type of propaganda fosters anti-semitism in those so inclined. But then in order to hate an entire group of people, you must first dehumanize them. Throughout history, for every attrocity, there was first the process of dehumanization... I guess that's what they're doing, dehumanizing. Unfortunately, the moderates are not in control in Israel... Regardless, that is the most racist, deplorable piece of propaganda I've read in a very long time.

[jayhawk 5]

Thanks for sharing, some of the best political satire I've read in a long time.

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I disagree with the Bush-Cheney energy policy--it must move to conservation. It must be supported by huge monetary taxes (- incentives)for excessive use and equally large credits (+ incentives)for conservative use of fuel. I should get credits for my Trane 18 Seer AC in Texas. I should be penalized for my V-12 600. Gas should be $4.00 a gallon.---- Then at least I could back out of the parking lot and see what might hit me. The Navigator would be toast. Shale Oil could be a reality. But, Yes I would drill in the National Parks if necessary to bridge the gap.

I disagree with Bush on Stem Cell and abortion.

But, when it comes to dealing with megalomaniacs such as our Iraqi friend. President Bush has 150% of my support.No honest debate before the American People? What is debating through Congress and the United Nations. What the S-- H--- do you want----the President in your private living room?