Creditors don't own everything....Obviously....The preffered and commons would be lucky to even see 25% of that money to theirs..... Most realistic case scenario is most preffered and capital trust get fully paid and commons will see $2-$3 per share......(assuming at least $50 billion is returned)..... Don't know what is going on in the court....Hopefully, some good news soon....Do you know where they post their calendars?