after hours always shows that rediculous bid/ask gap. Some MM's drop out of their position after the market closes. Hopefully the jerk who keeps selling low will get fed up with the ask being filled at close and they'll quit. Thanks again. I've been price fluffing this stock with 100 to 500 share buys at high ask off and on for 9 months but it usually takes the effort of a few people, and I couldn't hold up the wall alone.