i can appreciate your concerns, as i share them as well. i think for a start up, i am granting them lots of leeway. i do get a chuckle out of Ike's intro's on MoneyTV, "thanks....it's...............good to.......be here". im pretty awful sometimes at public speaking too. am i protecting ike? no. im here for go800, not to make a new best friend. i do believe, however, that we will eventually shift into high gear. i do understand that eventually means paper gains and losses will dance the night away....not downplaying that. re: the marketing push, while i think the classified ads were a bit lowkey, they were CHEAP. Ike doesnt want to spend $$$$ right now on that, and I don't blame him for that.