they did issue over $100K in convertible debt that converts at like a 50% discount to the price. So no matter where the price is, the seller is making double their money. Those are who can profit, as well as all these damned third party pump and dump campaigns someone keeps paying pump and dump sites to pump VIVK. Those sites get free shares----you think they want to cash out to get paid or ensure VIVK is a long-term success? lol