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09/24/02 11:56 AM

#822 RE: Elmer Phud #821

Elmer, Re: Maybe you're just a trader but some of us are investors.

An important distinction. I've noticed that some day traders and options speculators have a tendency to believe that the stock market was created just for them, and long term investors somehow just don't "get it". The irony in that mentality is striking.

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09/24/02 12:16 PM

#825 RE: Elmer Phud #821

Elmer, looks like Hammer will have a power dissipation of 70W. That's more than I thought.

http://www.eet.com/in_focus/silicon_engineering/OEG20020923S0066

In the case of AMD's development of the Hammer technology -- the upcoming x86-based 64-bit processor -- SOI enables significant improvements in the number of transistors on a processor. For example, a hypothetical desktop processor using 70 watts will run an AMD bulk silicon processor with about 40 million transistors. Our 64-bit desktop processor, the AMD Athlon based on Hammer technology, will operate approximately 100 million transistors at the same 70 watts.

It doesn't say at which frequency these "hypothetical" parts will run. If 70W is at the starting frequency (2GHz), that won't exactly bode well as Hammer ramps. Though it is worth mentioning that the 100M transistor variant of Hammer is likely to have 1MB of cache on it. While the cache isn't the largest consumer of power on the chip, the 256KB desktop chips are likely to have lower power levels.

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Bonefish

09/24/02 12:18 PM

#827 RE: Elmer Phud #821

Mr. Phud,
RE:"Maybe you're just a trader but some of us are investors."

Since you probably watched this loser drop from 76 to 14 I'd say you qualify as an "Investor".
If you are arguing the virtues of investing in Intel, which you likely did all the way down, I'd say you've been holding a pretty week hand.
OTOH, of course the lower Intel goes the safer it is to buy.
DUH! SOmeday it will turn around. No kidding. Then you'l likely get get even more cocky and prideful...
You're lucky you don't have to show a brokerage statement beore you can get all puffed up.