your right BB50. not that long ago there was some posting talk about how we were getting to pumped up about the 10-Q results. well we did get pumped up because the story is a good one. when all the facts come out the story may just still be good. Mr. Babbkie was jumped on for not PRing every other day. and for some time now the PPS just would not go up like we thought the story should take it. the volume has also been off, not higher like we thought it should be. Mr.Babbkie has not been 'selling' shares to us. we knew their would be dilution and well their is. in fact we were OK with paying for the spots on TV, if not we should of sold then. the pig in me wanted a super 10-Q just like most here who have been long on ZVTK. well, we got answers as to viability, and really no big suprises all that's in the 10-Q we kind of expected. anyway i'll hold my shares as best i can. the PPS for ZVTK will suffer from the let down, but the market for ZVTK could allready have this let down priced in. jmho