excel and hitimer, if you were an investor in Cooper's past success. And he made you a nice payday. Wouldn't you be inclined to have enough faith in him to take a chance after some of the positive vibs he's sent out about the NVEI tech? Especially at these ridiculous prices. I know if Joe Saunders of PVN moved on to a new company and merely stated he feels it will be successful in the future, I'd be "chomping at the bit" to invest, especially if grossly undervalued.