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04/09/10 11:46 AM

#784 RE: jonesieatl #783

Change within institutions is almost always incremental and slow... the more when the needed improvement isn't obviously one that is in the specific short term interest of those who most need to accept it or have it imposed.

Enabling profit from the destruction of businesses and the destruction of their capital and limiting the capital formation functions of the market... rather than from enabling free market competition between competing pools of capital that are channeled to compete in a free market... is still the dominant mode operable on Wall Street... at least among the robber baron bankers driving the flawed model of crony capitalism we have.

The defective rule sets and those who apply them will fail... because markets do work. The question is whether you really want to wait around for your institutions or your country to crash and burn, failing along with the flawed rule set, because it has adopted the wrong rule set... only in order to have that flawed, stupid, choice be corrected by long term market forces rather than reason properly applied. The Soviet Union failed, too... because of market forces... which still isn't a proper endorsement of their flawed choices in adopting the wrong rules and embracing failure... only because "the market will work", eventually ???

It really isn't that hard... the right rules, properly enforced, enable more efficient markets. Markets don't exist in a vacuum. They are what they are because of the rules you have. You don't HAVE a free market without the right rules... and without enforcement, you don't have rules.

Errors will be corrected more rapidly with less waste and destruction when your systems drive competition that is based on the right rules, which drive change by enabling the FREE MARKET CHOICE of superior alternatives. Crony capitalism instead uses rules to force all transactions into narrow channels with a layer of control acting as a tax on efficiency, obstructing market function, by requiring every deal include fixed "profits" for a select set of good ole boys. That is the system we have... which is why bankers make massive bonuses while their companies fail to perform well enough to enable them to survive... without our being forced to pay them from tax revenues.

The U.S. no longer HAS a free market... and has instead become just as corrupt as every other crony capitalist nation. We no longer have any unique competitive advantage as a benefit that results from our having the right rules, a free market with rules that are "more right" relative to others.

That is just a fact. If you want to operate in a system with "the right rules" you need to go to Singapore or Hong Kong...

China still isn't better than the U.S. now... but China is building momentum while at least moving the right way. The U.S. is still living off past glory... the remnant in the residuals from having had the right idea once... while moving the wrong way, failing to address the problem, and accelerating in making more of the wrong choices...

The free market here has been destroyed... and the failures resulting from the destruction of proper function... are blamed on the free market... rather than on the dysfunction resulting from having broken it.

Health care ? The "free market" failed ? There IS no free market for health care now. Insurers don't compete... instead of operating monopolies that institutionalize waste and fraud. The "reform" we just got doesn't attempt to fix that... but instead uses government power to apply the force necessary to require everyone who is unwilling to participate in that market scam... to patronize those existing businesses.

If you want to lower health care costs... require competition... and attack costs in inefficiencies that are enabled by subverting the market competition rather than enabling it.

Globalstockadvice

04/30/10 8:52 AM

#789 RE: jonesieatl #783

Hey Jone Check out the MLXO board I found some great DD. $Brich$ also been helping out. Well anyway I may as well tell you.

MLXO Here is a start:

Well The Woman at the Transfer Agent wouldnt tell me the SS but it definatly is under 1billion still but she said it is not the same in the IBOX

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04/30/10 5:30 PM

#791 RE: jonesieatl #783

jonesieatl, long time no see. Hope all is well. Cornell has a massive short on LCRE, see #msg-9656221

downsideup

04/30/10 8:02 PM

#792 RE: jonesieatl #783

"It will change"... the only questions are how, why and when...

What Lehman, Bear Stearns, WAMU, and the rest mean... what the "financial crisis" means... is that we're past a tipping point where the problem can no longer be ignored... because the banks and governments now understand that they cannot trust themselves, much less each other.

Without that trust... which is still in the relatively early stages of dissolution... the markets won't work, or, will work less well over time as the result of corruption seen in the lack of trust becomes pervasive. It doesn't solve the problem to transfer the realized risks of frauds in the banks, to the sovereign accounts of the nations that enabled the frauds. What that does, instead, is set up the end game... where the "good faith and credit" is proven no more immune to the impact of fraud and corruption than anything else. Deficit spending is a monetary fraud... that is sustainable only as long as it remains within limits, and is not revealed as the fraud it is. Now, the facts seen in the markets mean we're clearly seeing the Emperor's clothes for what they are... and frauds aren't sustainable when they are that fully exposed.

So, inflation is coming... as that is the only possible way the fraudulently created debts can be largely eliminated... but, inflation in "normal" times is different than inflation imposed during a financial crisis in the middle of a deflationary depression.

"It will change" when the government enabling the experience of the frauds we've had forced on us is insolvent.

"It will change" when market participants increasingly refuse to continue playing the game in markets that are rigged, corrupted, and co-opted... with the power of government used in enforcing the "rights" of the criminals.

"It will change" when the nations that enable perpetrating these sorts of frauds fail... as they will...

Divorcing enforcement of fiduciary responsibilities by market participants from the markets... requires failure.

The objectivist anarcho-liberatarian market types are correct... the market will correct all errors, in time... including theirs. Of course, when the errors you (they) make are of the sort that has you imposing corrupt rule sets that don't work... the failure that results is the systemic failure of the corrupt system that enables corrupt rules. The market WILL correct the imposition of corrupt rule sets... but it will do so by destroying your country.

The United States will either re-impose a proper rule set (that we used to have, which enabled unique benefits as advantages of our superior market systems, as trust existed here, where corruption existed elsewhere) or else we will devolve to a system that is no different than others... as corrupt as any third world banana republic, or China, Europe, etc.

The problem with that sort of leveling, that denies American exceptionalism by deliberately lowering us to the lowest common denominator... is that it IS a lowering... and is not consistent with our national expectations... and we will not abide it. We know who we are... and we are not that...

So... "it will change" as a result of REAL change in the next election... or, if that change is denied by the sorts of efforts in manipulation of election results we've seen in the last few cycles... it will change as a result of the failure of the United States as it is currently constituted.

Without REAL, and PROPER change... that takes us back to "the right rules"... I don't expect we'll last for more than another 5 or 10 years... maybe 15 with a bit of luck relative to others.

Meanwhile, our world has lost the great engine of the global economy, as our system of free markets has been fully co-opted by a system of managed trade... crony capitalism... merchantilism... which makes the entire globe into one giant banana republic.

Fixing it is easy... as all it requires is "doing the right thing"... which means not tolerating fraud, and not enabling frauds by changing rules to make frauds legal. With the right rules... we can restore trust. Without them... we're still heading toward real blood in the streets... in a pattern that is now showing patience in the "pause" with the bounce from the bottom is beginning to wear thin... and we are experiencing an acceleration in events, now, that might easily exceed any ability to control or contain the result.

Hopefully... we'll get REAL reform... and not the faux version the banks advocate that it seems we are being sold by Congress right now. We'll see if there are real teeth in the SEC enforcement effort re Goldman just begun... or if the design there is to take the "best" of the banks, have the enforcement effort fail, and use that failure to slip all of the various transgressions of all the other players past the crowd whose focus is diverted to Goldman.

I expect that IS the plan... I think that we'll be told we got the reform we need... when all we get is a sleight of hand in the form of meaningless "change" that has no real impact... and that the purpose of attacking Goldman now is to use the failure of the effort to enable avoiding addressing any of the other problems.

The illegal take down of WAMU ? Government officials actions clearly exceeding the powers the government has ?

Watch for the resurgence of the assertion of the power of states... as they begin to resist the exercise of unallocated powers the Federal government is usurping. IMO, Arizona insisting the laws there are must be enforced is only one hint of what is coming. Health care "reform"... given what it is, in the context in which we have it (another crony capitalist corporate fraud) is likely to form the fulcrum around which we either restore full and proper constitutional limits on federal power... or else, we will see the nation founder and fail... for lack of legitimacy.

The lack of any requirement that fiduciary responsibilities will be met, apparent in the markets and in our corporations, which we see more clearly now... is matched by a parallel lack of political legitimacy in our goverance...

We know government and the banks are corrupt, together... that government enabled the corruptions of the banks, for purpose...

There is not yet much public awareness that there are no boundaries between the corruption in the markets, and the corruption of money in politics. There are many who still think Republicans and Democrats are "different"... when both serve the same masters... who are not the voters, or the American people, or, the law, or "the right rules", or "the right thing".

Watch for change there... and you might recognize the Tea Party as a political parallel to the sort of recognition events we've seen begun in the markets already.

If government lived by the laws we wrote to restrain them... we'd not have the problems we have now. The corruption that matters most... is the fiction of the Constitution being a "living document"... which is the same thing as saying you'll allow those in power to say that "the law says whatever we want it to say".

The "living document" theory is a fraud. Much of the law we have imposed on us now is fraudulent... as it is based in knowing fraudulent interpretation of law.

Restore the Constitution... so that the only changes in fundamental law that are allowed are those that occur by amendment, rather than interpretation... and we might be able to restore trust...

Otherwise, the system is corrupt... and its corruption is pervasive and advanced to the degree that it is choking us.

I do believe there are those who WANT that result... who enable, pursue and defend the corruptions they do... in order to deliver that result.

I'm not one of those... I'd prefer we fix what is broken, adopt the right rules, have a government that lives within the law, that creates a reason to restore our trust... rather than see the nation self destruct.