Pris, You and Viv are the textbook definition of optimism. I sure hope you are right. I'm telling you it's getting very very hard to disagree with our permanent resident bashers. We are getting more and more of them to the board everyday. Suddenly they might not be the dark side but simply reality. Sigh, we'll see. Been in this long may as well play it out. Hell, it worked with BEDA today.