I think we should give a toast to MINING DEN when we show up in Las Vegas someday. That board got us through a difficult time and served us well. Its untimely death came as a surprise. But now I see a greater display of CIVILITY by all concerned, and a greater comfort level with this board than existed before. Many of us sit in the grandstands but remain thankful that Bill went down to Chile to directly speak to JJ, which I feel sort of paved the way for the trip by Greg (and Les). This may actually happen!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Steve