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Defectors Say Church of Scientology Hides Abuse
March 6, 2010
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/07/us/07scientology.html [ http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/07/us/07scientology.html?pagewanted=all ] [comments at http://community.nytimes.com/comments/www.nytimes.com/2010/03/07/us/07scientology.html ]

big piece -- embedded vid and slideshow

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Then there are the Exclusive Brethren .. Final Part of the Craig Hoyle story


Craig Hoyle also featured
in a December 2009 episode
of 60 Minutes on NZ TV

Aside: on tv Craig comes across as a very decent guy.

And immediately, we refute our own heading – no way is this the final instalment in the story of Craig Hoyle! The bubbly infectious personality that Craig enjoys means that this 20 year old man has many more pages to write.

Craig had the courage to publicize his experiences as a young gay male both within and then outside the homophobic Exclusive Brethren cult. The stories he has told of disciplinary measures, ‘chemical castration’ and the manner in which even his own family was forced to disown him has shocked all who have followed his story.

This website has received hate-mail for even reproducing his story! Comments from several Exclusive Brethren members have been so obnoxious that they could not be printed even after editing. How a group that attempts to call themselves ‘christian’ can produce members who offer such hate-filled correspondence is beyond extraordinary, it is perhaps the most compelling argument of all that the Exclusive Brethren are no longer Christian.

They have extensive historical Christian roots and up to 40 years ago, they were well respected in all areas of society. The impact of American James Taylor Junior in the 1960’s and subsequent leaders has been spiritually catastrophic. The Taylor/Symington/Hales branch of the Exclusive Plymouth Brethren is rightly described as a cult by many today.

The story of Craig Hoyle was published in late 2009 by GayNZ.com and it led to Craig’s appearance on NZ’s 60 Minutes. (Click here or the image above to watch the TV3 episode)

Read the three Craig Hoyle Articles:

Part 1 – What is it like to be gay in the Exclusive Brethren?
http://peebs.net/blog/2009/11/what-is-it-like-to-be-gay-in-the-exclusive-brethren/

Part 2 – Excommunication fron the Exclusive Brethren
http://peebs.net/blog/2009/11/excommunication-from-the-exclusive-brethren/

and Part 3 - After the Exclusive Brethren: Craig looks ahead
http://www.gaynz.com/articles/publish/36/printer_8235.php

http://peebs.net/blog/category/personal-stories/

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This so-called "church" is nothing but a cult! It preys on young adults who by the nature of their age can be somewhat insecure, and convinces them they can be "cured" if they join this so-called "church" "family". It all begins when a young adult just looks into things after being given a harmless-looking phamplet on the street...once the young adult comes to a so-called "church" facility to attend what they believe to be a harmless talk, that's when this group begins to work overtime to stay in control of every move of that young adult - someone from this cult is assigned to everyone who comes to one of their talks, up to and including calling them constantly to "harmlessly" inquire what they're doing, supposedly showing a real interest in them. When the young adult is on the tele with a family member, they are interrupted by a so-called "church" member casually asking who they are talking with and eventually drawing the person closer and closer until through the natural insecurity of a young adult, convincing them they can be "cured" from all that "bad" stuff they've done in the past (tried drugs, drank, etc.) if they devote their lives to this so-called church. The young adult is encouraged to convince their family members of the benefits of this so-called "church" and if any family member resists this nonsense the young adult is told to cut him/herself off from that person, who the so-called "church" claims can harm them. And that's when the real harm begins - soon the young adult is working 6days/week for 10hrs/day, usually but not always, at a so-called "church" facility earning very little money and when he/she wants to visit their family, they must get permission - keeping the person away from family is crucial to controlling everything that person does/thinks! Tele conversations with family members are monitored and soon the family does not recognize their own flesh and blood, who by now can only spout this cult's mantra and eventually loses all social skills as their whole world now is this so-called "church".

Many articles have been written about the danger of this so-called "church". A quick glance at the property this so-called "church" owns - in high-priced neighborhoods, btw - shows they are very, very rich - calling oneself a "church" definitely is a tax advantage AND having people work 6days/week for 10hrs/day for just pennies doesn't hurt either!!!
A store-front for this so-called "church" opened recently in Baptist- country, Richmond, VA and it will be interesting to learn how many people can be duped into casually looking into this so-called "church" only to eventually pay the price of losing their freedom for doing so!

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Cults thrive on tax-free status: Xenophon
Updated Fri May 21, 2010 1:09pm AEST

.. yup, we have teabagger types .. fundamentalist christian doomsday cults, too ..


Nick Xenophon demands end to tax-free status for
some groups claiming to be religions (ABC News)


Police raids find weapons: Nick Xenophon demands end
to tax-free status for some groups claiming to be
religions (7pm TV News SA)

Related links inside ..

Independent Senator Nick Xenophon says religious organisations must face a
public benefit test, in light of a weapons find at properties linked to a religious cult.

Adelaide police found guns, high-powered ammunition and explosives at properties connected with Agape Ministries International.

Police think the weapons may have been bound for a Pacific island.

Senator Xenophon says organisations claiming to be religious thrive on their tax-free status.

He says legislation he introduced to the Senate last week would help flush out dangerous groups.

"If a cult cannot get tax-free status because of its activities then clearly
that would make it more difficult for it to flourish and to expand," he said.

"That's why it's important that we have a public benefit test and that to me
is one way of ensuring some degree of scrutiny for an organisation such as this.

"Until we have a public benefit test these organisations will escape even the most basic level of scrutiny."

Police raided 12 properties including a farm near Mount Compass, south
of Adelaide, which they say possibly was being used for weapons training.

They found 35,000 rounds of ammunition for high-powered guns but not the guns themselves.

Three key leaders of the group are missing, including Rocco Leo, also known as Brother Rock, who is the ministry's founder.

Four arrests have been made over the weapons find.

Police say they want to know what has happened to millions of dollars
donated by followers for a move offshore, possibly to the Pacific.

The Agape cult believes the world will end with Armageddon in 2012, but police say they do not
know if that is why the arsenal of weapons, explosives and ammunition was being stockpiled.

Child marriage

South Australia's Families and Communities Minister Jennifer Rankine
says her department is keeping a close eye on members of the Agape group.

Ms Rankine says she is aware of complaints that at least two children
inside the cult had been promised for marriage to older followers.

She says the family has been investigated.

"They were aware of some concerns around people close to the children however my understanding
is there were no indicators that the children themselves were being mistreated," she said.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/05/21/2905465.htm

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Australia's 'child labour camp'

February 14, 2012, 6:18 pm Bryan Seymour Today Tonight

In the middle of suburban Australia is a secret compound that's labelled 'degrading' and 'inhumane', with allegations of keeping children prisoner.

Right in the middle of a quiet suburb is a place where children are separated from their parents, and forced to work full time for no pay, and live in squalid conditions.

Those who've survived this place say they were brainwashed into believing they could not leave, and that they deserved the shocking treatment dished out.

A young man who escaped the place with the help of his father, Shane Kelsey says “I lived in that garage for about a year and a half, maybe two years.”

More stories from Today Tonight

Tom Cruise 'poisoning plot' .. [insert from link] .. Cruise out of control
An award-winning farmer from Australia has been accused of poisoning
Tom Cruise while working at Scientology's world headquarters in the US.
http://au.news.yahoo.com/today-tonight/lifestyle/article/-/11285270/cruise-out-of-control/

When Scientology attacks .. http://au.news.yahoo.com/today-tonight/lifestyle/article/-/9655354/when-scientology-attacks/

Church of Scientology in damage control ..
http://au.news.yahoo.com/today-tonight/lifestyle/article/-/9545394/church-of-scientology-in-damage-control/

Shane is now 21-years-old. Until just over a year ago he had never used the internet, watched television or followed the media.

“You're not allowed to read any books other than scientology books, you can't read newspapers, no radio, no movies, nothing,” Shane said.

Shane says he was held captive and groomed to see all of us on the outside as pathetic, useless and stupid.

More stories from reporter Bryan Seymour
http://au.news.yahoo.com/today-tonight/search?sort=date&p=Bryan+Seymour&fr=news_sb_hd&provider=15534970

“So I lived in a garage until that got flooded by a storm, and my mum got really pissed off and said 'what the hell' and so I got moved into a closet. It is a closet under the stairs - maybe two metres long and a metre wide,” Shane said.

The true Australian headquarters of the Church of Scientology are located in the Sydney suburb of Dundas. The RPF base - which stands for Rehabilitation Project Force - is where Scientologists are sent for punishment and training, for crimes that most of us would regard as trivial.

More than 50 requests for interviews on camera with representatives from the Church of Scientology have been flatly refused.

The bottom line is they don't want people to know what's going on inside the centre, and those who've lived in there, like Shane, say it's like a gulag, or a prison. Yet it's in the middle of a suburb, which could be any suburb in Australia.

People would he horrified to know what has been going on in there for so many years, and continues to this day.

Shane Kelsey's mother and father were dedicated Scientologists in Sydney, so they put their son Shane into its highest core at the age of six - little Shane moved into a tiny room with eleven other children.

By the age of seven Shane says “we'd go down the streets and there'd be eight of us, ten of us, young as, and we'd go down and pledge people up to ‘drug free lives’.

“I signed my contract when I was eight-years-old. It was a billion-year contract, which means you're volunteering or servicing the Church for the next billion years,” Shane said.

“We used to do marching, close order drilling, things like that. Just because it was a form of discipline,” he said.

Shane saw his parents once a week. His mother and father would soon separate, and his dad Adrian moved overseas, and then left Scientology.

Meanwhile, the work schedule for children was fulltime, hard and without reward.

Working 35 hours a week when he was eight-years-old, by the time he was fourteen, the work changed to kitchen duty.

A military muster every morning required marching and saluting to the cause of saving mankind from the intergalactic ravages, described by the Church’s science fiction founder L Ron Hubbard.

The kids wore all black uniforms, and were always required to run, never walk.

So-called home schooling was provided in fits and starts, taking a back seat to hard labour and brainwashing.

“As soon as you turn fifteen, anyone, you're straight out of school. It doesn't matter what grade you're in, what level of maths, what level of anything, you're straight out," Shane said.

The mess hall served food priced at 30 cents per meal, mostly beans and rice. The adults ate first.

“They would all come in and eat whatever they wanted, and then we went after them to take what's there - sometimes there wouldn't be much, so you'd get little bits of food, and it wasn't really sufficient,” Shane said.

Those who dared question the brutality of this place were dealt with swiftly and severely.

“They used to live under our squash courts - it's a mud, dirt floor,” Shane recalled.

“We put people in there and they live in there, when they're on the RPF they'd sleep down there, and they'd study down there.”

Why would you put people in a dank, mouldy, sinking foundation underneath a squash court?

According to Shane it’s “because you're a bad person, you have to be segregated from everyone.”

By the age of fifteen Shane was living a nightmare even he now struggles to believe.

“As soon as I turned fifteen I was working seven days a week, fourteen hour days.”

That's 100 hours a week spent in a commercial kitchen. Shane and other children slaved away - cooking meals all day, every day, studying and snatching what little sleep they could.

“We'd get anywhere between $4 pay to $35 a week,” Shane said.

Among those who needed to be fed was billionaire James Packer. For several years beginning in 2002, Packer came to the Church of Scientology in the early mornings to receive auditing and instruction.

There is no suggestion Packer had any idea who was preparing his meals, or their work conditions.

Packer left scientology around 2008. It would be more than two years until Shane made his break for freedom.

In late 2010, Adrian Kelsey decided to rescue his son.

He invited us to document his attempt, and informed police of his plans to go to the compound and demand his son's release. He had protest signs ready if they refused to let him come out. When Shane came out to meet his father it was the first time they’d seen each other in four years.

Shane and Adrian were followed by Scientology ‘enforcers’, so Shane reluctantly returned to the compound to avoid trouble. One week later he was sent to work near the compound's boundary, and made a break for it.

“Scientology have no right to mess with family,” said Adrian Kelsey.

It took Shane fourteen months to shake off Scientology, discover the truth, learn about the real world and tell his story.

“One thing that would be good is if they actually just stood up and said ‘sorry, it wasn't right, we're going to change it’, but that is just not going to happen,” Adrian said.

Peta Obrien, who lived at the RPF base between 1997 and 2000 confirms Shane's account of the appalling conditions.

“You do two hours of work, then you go and study for two and a half hours in the RPF. It was five hours, and then you go to work again - hard labour, picking with a rock pick, chipping away at rocks till they erode,” O’Brien said.

Now a successful architectural designer, O’Brien believes Scientology has nothing of value to offer the community.

“Close it down, doors shut and all the staff members going back to their families, and living their lives,” O’Brien said.

“I was there for ten years all up in the Church of Scientology as a staff member, and how could I inflict that on my children? Which I'll forever feel like I have to make up,” she said.

Perth-based lawyer Grainne O'Donovan has devoted her time and expertise to helping survivors of the cult seeking justice.

“There's not a law in New South Wales that makes it illegal to work a child for those hours. That's extraordinary, but that's the case,” O’Donovan said.

O’Donovan has also campaigned with the internet-based activist group Anonymous that has raised awareness about Scientology.

“This is degrading and inhumane treatment,’ O'Donovan said.

“At some level they (Scientologists) have become convinced, I suppose, that it's appropriate, and that the group is more important than the individual,” she said.

RPF bases like the Sydney compound exist in other countries. Those who've escaped from them tell similar stories – of having fingers broken on the orders of the leader of Scientology, screamed at, and slapped for twenty hours straight, whilst having cold water poured over their head, and much more.

Independent Federal Senator Nick Xenophon has championed a campaign to shed light on the darkness at the heart of this group.

“Shane's story is one of shocking abuse, child abuse, it's one of a child being enslaved,” Senator Xenophon said.

“The authorities need to investigate this urgently. This is something that requires police investigation,” he said.

“What makes this worse is that this organisation is being subsidised by Australian taxpayers because it doesn't pay any tax.”

Meanwhile Shane has his father back, yet his mother Lesley remains inside Scientology.

“I hope she hears word of this and sums up the courage to actually find it and watch it,” Shane said.

“She will have to escape. They won't let her go. Leaving's not an option, so she will have to escape,” Shane said.

The Church of Scientology refused to be interviewed for this story. In a written response scientology denied any mistreatment of its members.

The response also declared that anyone on the program is there because they want to be there, and that they are completely free to withdraw at any time during induction or later.

“When Shane left the church in late 2010, he simply got his bag and walked out the door,” said the statement.

The celebrities used to advertise Scientology likely have little idea that people like Shane Kelsey even exist, but now they do.

Adrian and Shane hope they do something about it for the sake of other families.

Senator Xenophon says he's taking this story to Bill Shorten, the Federal Minister for Workplace Relations.

If you have any information we should know about Scientology, let us know.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/today-tonight/lifestyle/article/-/12905379/Australia-s-child-labour-camp/

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Katie Holmes and Tom Cruise divorce: Scientology 'not a factor in Suri custody battle'

Kaite Holmes will face an uphill battle if she hopes to use Tom Cruise's Scientology
connection to help her custody case, according to US family law expert Scott Altman.

9:39AM BST 03 Jul 2012 .. [embedded video of Scott Altman talking]

Scott Altman, associate dean at the University of Southern California's Law School, said he would be "shocked" if a court decided to wade into a debate about which religion is best for the upbringing of a child.

Holmes, 33, made headlines last week when she filed for divorce from Cruise after more than five years of marriage and for custody of the couple's only child, five-year-old Suri.

Holmes, who filed the divorce and custody documents in New York, is believed to be hoping for a legal edge in state custody law. In California, the courts presume joint custody, whereas in New York, the courts look at the best interests of a child and who's going to make decisions and care for the youngster.

"Courts are very wary, for reasons that are pretty obvious, for making a declaration that Catholicism is bad for children or Scientology is bad for children or Judaism is bad for children."

"They don't think it's the role of the court in a pluralistic society to pass these kinds of judgments," said Altman.

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"So unless there is very strong evidence of harm with a particular practice, courts will not consider those sorts of arguments. And I would be shocked if a court would be willing to consider arguments like that in this case."

Mr Altman also said he doubted any pre-marital arrangement to bring a child up in a certain religion would be recognised during a custody battle for Suri.

"Some couples will write prenuptial agreements and they'll specify, as part of this agreement, here's what we're going to do about money if we ever divorce and we both agree that the child will be raised in this religion, courts refuse to enforce those agreements.

So it doesn't matter, not only if you knew about a person's religion, if you're promised something about the religion, courts still will not enforce those kinds of promises."

While Holmes, Cruise and representatives for both have remained quiet about the reasons for the high-profile split, speculation in the media is that Suri, now at the age when she begins a formal education, and the Church of Scientology, of which Cruise is a key member, are central to the breakup.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newsvideo/celebrity-news-video/9371922/Katie-Holmes-and-Tom-Cruise-divorce-Scientology-not-a-factor-in-Suri-custody-battle.html

======== .. SEA some of the speculation .. sad any break-up, but row row row your boat ..

Inside Scientology: Is the church's controversial Sea Organization what drove Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes apart?

omg! from Yahoo!

By Suzy Byrne | omg! from Yahoo! – 12 hours ago


Holmes and Cruise out with Suri in NYC last winter (Tom Meinelt-Jason Winslow/Splash)

Following the news that Katie Holmes reportedly blindsided Tom Cruise by filing for divorce last week, the burning question is what went wrong between the couple, whose relationship at one time was so passionate that Cruise was literally jumping up and down on national television about it. Numerous reports link the split to Cruise's devotion to Scientology, stating that Holmes, 33, became concerned for the welfare of their 6-year-old daughter, Suri, as the girl's involvement with the controversial religion was set to increase. Holmes' divorce papers, seeking sole custody, spoke volumes.

According to TMZ, .. http://www.tmz.com/2012/07/02/tom-cruise-katie-holmes-divorce-suri-scientology-sea-org/ .. Holmes is divorcing Cruise in part because she believed he planned to send Suri away from home to a hardcore Scientology association known as Sea Organization. "Sea Org, as it is known, is where the highest levels of Scientology are taught and kids as young as five can be sent to live there ... without their parents — and our sources say Tom is a big fan," states the website. "The Sea Org has been often compared to a boot camp and several ex-Scientologists (including Oscar winner Paul Haggis) have been outspoken against its military-like conditions."


When Holmes and Cruise started dating, they couldn't keep their hands off each other (Getty Images)

The official Scientology website .. http://www.scientology.org/faq/church-management/what-is-the-sea-organization.html .. has a different description for the group, which it calls "the singularly most dedicated Scientologists," who "have committed their lives to the volunteer service of their religion." Established in 1967, the Sea Organization once operated from a number of ships, but today the majority of the 5,000 members are based on land — though they still "wear maritime-style uniforms and have ranks and ratings." The Scientology boat Freewinds — on which Cruise celebrated his 42nd birthday during a party that cost an estimated $300,000 — is operated by members of Sea Org.

[Related: Tom Cruise's three marriages: the rundown]
http://omg.yahoo.com/blogs/now/tom-cruise-three-marriages-rundown-233932949.html

"As volunteers and members of a religious order, Sea Organization members work long hours and live communally with housing, meals, uniforms, medical and dental care, transport, and all expenses associated with their duties provided by the church," states the Scientology website. "They also receive an allowance to purchase personal items, as all of their other expenses are fully covered by the church." Minor children are permitted to voluntarily join with the consent of a parent and schooling is provided, but the children also work. However, the website emphasizes: "The Church of Scientology adheres to all child labor laws and no underage Sea Organization members are permitted to perform tasks or to work hours longer than permitted by law."

Although Scientologists deny there is any wrongdoing in relation to the group, there have been numerous reports stating that conditions for children within the organization — who, according to the Scientology website, are made to sign "a one-billion-year pledge to symbolize their eternal commitment to the religion" — are less than optimal. "Crash" screenwriter/director Haggis, who was a member of the church, has said that allegations of abuse of the children were partially behind the reason he left Scientology after 34 years. In a 26-page article in The New Yorker, .. http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/02/14/110214fa_fact_wright#ixzz1zUPdQr7Y .. he said he heard about horror stories from men and women who joined Sea Org before turning 18. “They were 10 years old, 12 years old, signing billion-year contracts — and their parents go along with this?” Haggis said. “Scrubbing pots, manual labor — that so deeply touched me. My God, it horrified me!” In the same article, a former employee claimed to have worked 15-hour days as a teenager, seeing her parents only two times between the ages of 12 and 18. Another said he earned $17 a week for his work, and resided in living quarters that were so lacking that his room didn't even have a door knob.


In Holmes' divorce filing, she says her marriage ended six months ago -- prior
to when this photo was taken at an Oscar party in February (Getty Images)

Outside of that, the website Ex-Scientology Kids, .. http://exscientologykids.com/ .. which was started by three women who had grown up in the church but later left, has a forum where many people share stories of mistreatment. Additionally, in 2010, a former Scientologist named Keryn (she didn't disclose her last name) went public with her story, claiming she was a "child slave" for Sea Org in the 1960s. Her mother was a high-ranking Scientologist and at the age of 12 Keryn started working on one of the church's ships, where the church's elite followers stay and study, before her grandmother helped her escape at the age of 13. "When we were on the ship, we had people working 20 hours a day, seven days a week," she told Australia's ABC News. .. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2010-03-12/scientology-insiders-nightmare-childhood/362772 .. "A lot of the children hadn't seen their parents for months, and their parents were on the same ship." She also alleges that she saw a 6-year-old boy chained up by the leg in a ship's hold for days. "He was fed, but he was chained," she said.

Even if Suri doesn't join the hardcore Sea Org, there are apparently concerns Holmes has about the religion in general, specifically "security checking," an interrogation process in which an ethics officer asks about 100 questions to children, starting at age 6. Questions range from "What has somebody told you not to tell?" to "Have you ever bullied a smaller child?" The Village Voice spoke with Marc Headley, who grew up in Scientology but left in 2005, about sec checking. "You get conditioned to tell them everything they want to know," he said. "It's all just information gathering." His wife, Claire, added: "I was sec checked when I was 7… I can think of numerous minors who received sec checking. It's probably more prominent in the Sea Org, but I don't think it was limited to the SO."

[Related: Suri Cruise: Six Years of Style (Photos)]
http://omg.yahoo.com/photos/suri-s-stylish-looks-slideshow/

Our calls to a spokesperson for Scientology International were not returned.

Holmes is seeking sole legal custody and primary residential custody of Suri, a move that ensures she'll be able to make decisions on the girl's education and religion choices. At the time her divorce became public on June 29, her lawyer, Jonathan Wolfe, said in a statement that "Katie's primary concern remains, as it has always been, her daughter's best interest." The lawyer declined comment on this story.

When Cruise ended his marriage to Nicole Kidman, who like Holmes was raised Catholic, their two children continued down the road of Scientology with Isabella attending Delphian School, a boarding school in Oregon run by the church. Since her divorce, Kidman has rarely been seen with Bella or her son Connor and says very little about their upbringing. However, in 2007 Kidman revealed to the UK-edition of Marie Claire that the children opted to live with Cruise in Los Angeles. "When children are teenagers, they have a say in where they want to be," she said. As for their upbringing, "Yes, they're being raised as Scientologists," she said, adding: "I don't want to go there."


Kidman (pictured here in 2004) is rarely seen with her two elder children, Connor
and Isabella Cruise (Getty Images)

Rumor has it that Cruise will soon be filing his own divorce papers, seeking joint custody of Suri. For now, Cruise — whose lawyer said was "deeply saddened" by the divorce news (his lawyer didn't reply to a request for comment on this story) — is filming his thriller “Oblivion” in Iceland and getting ready for this 50th birthday on July 3. Meanwhile, Holmes seems to be regaining her independence. According to People, .. http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20608621,00.html .. the actress has fired her soon-to-be ex-husband's security team and is living in a new apartment in New York City. The magazine also reports that earlier today, Holmes kept her previously scheduled appearance on the Lifetime reality fashion competition "Project Runway: All Stars.” She attended the taping at Parsons The New School of Design in Manhattan.

http://omg.yahoo.com/news/inside-scientology--is-the-church-s-controversial-sea-organization-what-drove-tom-cruise-and-katie-holmes-apart-.html

.. never thought i'd post from there! ..haven't touched Scientology for so long the itch got me and
the article is the most comprehensive of others i then took a peek at .. inside there is a video of Alec
Baldwin and Hilaria Thomas making their wedding debut .. nope, :) didn't watch it, but wish them all da best.