Bulldog, I have only been in PPHM for about 1 year. Hence, I have not had to endure the frustration others have. If they don't get Tarvacin into the clinic without a prolonged delay( 3 to 4 months),I will be lightening up substantially. However, I expect I will always keep at least 25,000 shares just because I want to see how it turns out. I find the science very interesting despite fumbling management. If they keep fumbling, I expect they wil get bought and we won't like the price. TW