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GorillaGorilla

01/27/10 6:41 AM

#26687 RE: FLBullHunter #26684

LLEN - Previously announced Washing facility Purchase

"All it takes is one bad acquisition deal to screw up a good thing"
- The most recent purchase was exceedingly cheap some where around 1 x earnings.

Current Washing Facilities (think)
L&L Coal Partners 200,000-250,000
Hon Shen Coal 300,000
Total 500,000-550,000

Dirty approximation of Gross profits into Net Income: 0.43
(Net Income / Gross Profits) (9,957,243/22,991,922).

According to spreadsheet

Current Washing Revenue
Price Per Tonne $74 - 82
Tonnes 600,000
Washing revenue: 40,950,000
Gross Margin 12%
Gross Profit 4.9 M
Net at 0.43 2.1 M

New Facility
Price Per Tonne $130
Tonnes 150,000
Washing revenue: 19,500,000
Assuming Gross Margin 10 - 12%
Gross Profit $2M - $2.3M
Net at 0.43 $0.8 M - 1 M

PUDA's Washing Facilities Gross Margins

Getting another data point - PUDA who are soley, in previous quarters at least, Coking coal washers they have gross margin last Q of 10% - previous 2Q's it was 8%. In 2008 13% and 2007 17% - so there's some flexibility.

ROI for LLEN's purchase

So, my estimate is that they are going to return in profits the cost in 1 - 1 1/4 years. Typically, purchases are more like 10 times earnings.

They are also talking about upgrading it to 600,000 so, that would be 4 times as much or $3.4 - $4 M net income per year. In FY 10 ending in April they are gunning for in the 30 Million net income region so *if/when* the new facility runs at 600,000 it will add on 10% to income.

The only disparity I can see is the price per tonne between new $130 and old (estimated) $74-82 facilities - I am assuming the new facility is washing coking coal and the old one mainly thermal.

rich

Drexion2004

01/27/10 8:39 AM

#26702 RE: FLBullHunter #26684

LLEN: I think you got confused =). Crane is part of LPIH, he is not involved with LLEN. I'm a little surprised you believe that the 12 month projection is 'rose colored' though. I didn't really see anything that far fetched in the report. Its silly to have 'research reports' coming from an IR firm representing the company, thats certainly true... On the other hand, I've actually found their research tends to be conservative in its forecasts for EPS. Look at how badly the company beat their Q2 prediction. I think the same will happen for their FY 2010 prediction.

One thing the company has been really bad at is providing up to date guidance for EPS. They announced guidance awhile back, did a ton of acquisitions / reduction-of-minority-interest and didn't update the guidance. Coal prices jump over 20-30% and no change in guidance... heh...

-Fernando