slaz, nothing has been chisled in stone, buttttttttttttttttt if we are correct and we did help someone buy at this level that would make feel good especially that i was right. granted it could go the other way, i beleive we've always made mention of a shell play. i sure hope were correct, the latest upward movement is encouraging, before there would be 400 share sales at .004 just to keep it down. that hasn't been happening, as of late we are seeing a leveling. i like my odds at this stage of this "dead shell" i think i hear a heart beat. good luck to you and i hope you find somthing to do with this stock that adds more life.