The problem with AMDsters is they do not see the difference between HPC and opteron per se. I don't think there's one poster on the intc board, whether they are employees spouses or investors who don't give opteron it's due, but I have always thought that AMD get's better press, Intel plods along - so when do you think Dell will carry AMD - I don't think for a while myself, maybe end of next year if Intel doesn't get it's game in order.