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TheFinalCD

12/03/09 2:51 AM

#52727 RE: Brookwinn #52724

WOW THAT SOME LONG TERM CARE KOOL AID THERE... WELL AT LEAST SOMEONE IS HAPPY...........


CUZ I KNOW GRANNY AINT!!!!!!!

IF HE WASNT B.S. ABOUT THAT EITHER???????

99leadballoons

12/03/09 5:44 AM

#52733 RE: Brookwinn #52724

I continue to be supportive of the Etc. spin-off, especially now that we know that the Authorized Share count of Etc. has been kept low, and since we have found out today that the extra shares (above the approx 99 million that initially go to existing EXPH shareholders) will be used to cover the transfer of assets from EXPH. Thus, pretty well of the AS will be used up right at the outset. This also supports what I wrote awhile ago - this is a well-thought through plan.

This plan is about as well thought out as an attack on Russia in the winter. It simply makes no sense. He has now devalued everybody's share of Etc by 9% and will likely continue to do it and because it is private there will be no TA you can call to even find out.

There seems to be a number amongst us who think otherwise, insinuating that JD is a liar, and much worse -- not only do I find such accusations disgusting and unwarranted

Read the PRs. Unwarranted? I honestly cant believe it took this long for people to catch on to this clown. He has missed every revenue projection he has ever said. EVERY one. Today he even changed another one. Cant wait for 3q and then people can see 6 million is just a random number he probably pulled from thin air. This doesnt even take into consideration all of his other lies and half truths. Quarter truths is more appropriate.

I am pleased that JD did not set up Etc. with a huge AS; there will be pretty well no shares available for dilution after the spin-off and transfer of assets from EXPH. This shows integrity and confidence, IMO.

The only thing it shows is that he already robbed investors of 9%. The fact that it is private means he can change the A/S like it was his underwear and not tell anybody. Confidence? Take away fidence and you have a more appropriate description.

This stock had a full blown manipulation campaign and we arent talking about MM's. Lots of diversions were created to trick shareholders into buying and holding. There is certainly a lot of inside action surrounding this stock. Pretty easy to see.







pascal30

12/03/09 6:33 AM

#52736 RE: Brookwinn #52724

"The lack of understanding of this point and the lack of appreciation for their efforts that is so often displayed in posts on this forum is disturbing to me. JD and staff are working day after day to build value, out of which we will be rewarded. It takes time to accomplish this. I am happy to wait for the results as I believe they will be positive"

best post in days
that is exactly how it is

unfortunately we are here among an investor base who are only looking for a 2-3 bagger in days, and if that doesn't happen for them, they come to weep like little children and drama queens about how we have all been screwed. I think some should try and start/run some business first, and then come and talk here again. Let's see if they are then still so smart and quick.

I'm sorry, but even though a CEO is responsible to create shareholder value, he is not obliged to make sure the stock will go up 50% every week.

Wish IHUB could install a filter which would automatically stop people with ALL CAPS names from posting, it would help a lot :)

fourkids_9pets

12/03/09 8:58 AM

#52750 RE: Brookwinn #52724

nice post ..

always appreciative of intelligent analysis

thanks for the input

--
4kids
all jmo

Braden32601

12/03/09 10:07 AM

#52791 RE: Brookwinn #52724

agree- repost >>"Thank you dapperphil (as well as Thurston and others) for your reports on the shareholders meeting. I could not attend, like many others, so your feedback is much appreciated.

I continue to be supportive of the Etc. spin-off, especially now that we know that the Authorized Share count of Etc. has been kept low, and since we have found out today that the extra shares (above the approx 99 million that initially go to existing EXPH shareholders) will be used to cover the transfer of assets from EXPH. Thus, pretty well of the AS will be used up right at the outset. This also supports what I wrote awhile ago - this is a well-thought through plan.

Also, with only 5% of the EXPH assets expected to transfer to Etc., we see that there will not be a "stripping of EXPH" taking place, as has been insinuated by others over the past few weeks. It has also been said that EXPH shareholders will be losing big value when Etc. is spun-off -- I fully disagree, because whatever percentage of EXPH that a shareholder has immediately before the spin-off is the same percentage he/she will have of Etc. So whether you have 2.2% of one company (EXPH alone) or you have 2.2% of two companies (2.2% of EXPH plus 2.2% of Etc.) -- you still have 2.2% of the whole picture, even though it is then structured in two separate entities. There is no loss of value at all. The only downside (to some who would choose to see it that way) is that Etc. shares will not be as easily trade-able for some time -- for myself, that is not an issue as I want to hold them until they grow in value anyway.

I applaud JD for having the foresight to make structural changes now for the long-term betterment of all shareholders (and we are on an even playing field since JD and insiders own common shares, just as we do). I trust that he is working for the benefit of himself as well as all other shareholders. [There seems to be a number amongst us who think otherwise, insinuating that JD is a liar, and much worse -- not only do I find such accusations disgusting and unwarranted, I cannot understand why anyone who feels that way would even still be here; sell out and invest in another stock you can better believe in then!].

I am pleased that JD did not set up Etc. with a huge AS; there will be pretty well no shares available for dilution after the spin-off and transfer of assets from EXPH. This shows integrity and confidence, IMO.

I believe JD, Glenn Harrs and management are doing their utmost to build EXPH and Etc. They have come through very tough times, and the economic situation in the US is far from resolved yet. They are working for the benefit of not only themselves, but for the benefit of us all as they build these businesses. The lack of understanding of this point and the lack of appreciation for their efforts that is so often displayed in posts on this forum is disturbing to me. JD and staff are working day after day to build value, out of which we will be rewarded. It takes time to accomplish this. I am happy to wait for the results as I believe they will be positive.

Warren Buffett said: "The Stock Market is designed to transfer money from the Active to the Patient." I think EXPH and Etc. will demonstrate how true this is over the next couple of years.

I have been buying and holding shares of EXPH since June 2008. I was initially doubtful about taking a position in EXPH back then, but my confidence in JD and the future of these companies has grown strongly. I have added many more shares over the past month since the spin-off was announced as I want to maximize the part I will have in Etc. as well as in the future of both companies. The "fire sale" share pricing we saw in the late afternoon Wednesday may give others an incredible opportunity to do the same, IMO, as the fearful exit and believers stay.

I have no complaints and look forward to the ongoing development of the business plan JD and his people are pursuing. "

TRUMPSTER!

12/03/09 10:47 AM

#52844 RE: Brookwinn #52724

Excellent post! Thank you for sharing your thoughts.

PatD100

12/03/09 11:27 AM

#52872 RE: Brookwinn #52724

Worthy of of a "Sticky Highlighted" post mark