not kissing anyone's arse as you put it. patriot did you happen to come check out this board at all before Big D became to MOD? It was barely even worth looking at. It had as much traffic as Raging Bull and yahoo was the only place worth posting. Now it has completely changed. I personally do not have the time to police this board and I am thankful for Big D and T9F for stepping up to the plate. That is all.