Thanks for the T. Hartmann article.. the 'federalists' I have run into on ihub lean so hard right, that it looks like fascism, they reminded me of 'j. birchers'. I believe, that one time you posted about so many judges/lawyers as being from the federalist society flooding, our justice system at this present time ? ...not completely sure.
F6, wow bow wow WOW! the Adams and Jefferson quotes, considering their political and social differences rivalries, is one of the besta of Venn intersections .. lolol .. all think alike about some things .. and Thom Hartmann's article WOW! AGAIN ALL NEW to me .. love it! .. Steph, covered it, and lol, bet she got her ..
right .. her political recall of your scene is amazing to me .. if only .. even of Australia's .. that said, chuckle, there is a hint of her idea, way down here, too.
Now, choice Thom Hartmann munchie repeats from How An Earlier "Patriot Act" Law Brought Down A President by Thom Hartmann .. June 16, 2003
Many Americans are suggesting that the Patriot Act (and its proposed "improvements" in Patriot II) is totally new in the experience of America .. [nope history] .. shows another view, which offers us both warnings and hope.
It started when Benjamin Franklin Bache, grandson of Benjamin Franklin and editor of the Philadelphia newspaper the Aurora, began to speak out against the policies of then-President John Adams. Bache supported Vice President Thomas Jefferson's Democratic-Republican Party.... [...] lol ..
But while Jefferson and his Democratic-Republicans had learned to develop a thick skin, University of Missouri-Rolla history professor Larry Gragg points out in an October 1998 article in American History magazine that Bache's writings sent Adams and his wife into a self-righteous frenzy.
Abigail insisted that her husband and Congress must act to punish Bache for his "most insolent and abusive" words about her husband and his administration. His "wicked and base, violent and calumniating abuse" must be stopped, she demanded. ..LOL ..
Worked into a frenzy ... WONDERFAR! .. a series of four laws that came to be known together as the Alien and Sedition Acts. [...] 44 to 41 in the House of Representatives - ... a sunset provision .. unless renewed, would expire the last day of John Adams' first term of office, March 3, 1801.
Empowered with this early version of the Patriot Act, President John Adams ordered his "unpatriotic" opponents arrested, and specified that only Federalist judges on the Supreme Court would be both judges and jurors. [...]
LOL .. When Congress let out in July of 1798, John and Abigail Adams made the trip home to Braintree, Massachusetts in their customary fashion - in fancy carriages as part of a parade, with each city they passed through firing cannons and ringing church bells.
Luther Baldwin .. ROTFLMAO!!! .. "There goes the President and they are firing at his arse." Baldwin further compounded his sin by adding that, "I do not care if they fire thro' his arse!"
The tavern's owner, a Federalist named John Burnet, overheard the remark and turned Baldwin in to Adams' thought police: The hapless drunk was arrested, convicted, and imprisoned for uttering "seditious words tending to defame the President and Government of the United States." [...] no opposition was tolerated. .. [...]
* In what came to be known as "The Revolution of 1800" or "The Second American Revolution," Thomas Jefferson freed all the men imprisoned by Adams as one of his first acts of office. Jefferson even reimbursed the fines they'd paid - with interest - and granted them a formal pardon and apology. Today, undoing the Patriot Act and kicking corporate money out of Washington D.C. have become popular progressive and Democratic campaign themes.
The history of John Adams' failed presidency gives hope and encouragement to those committed to real democracy and genuine freedom. History shows that when enough people become politically active, they can rescue the soul of America from sliding into a corrupt, abusive police state.
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