Lets be fair On2. The past history of CPRK contained mostly long term estimates for mill construction and projected output. We have only delivered saleable output for a short time. Management has been criticized in the past for inaccuracies and over-optimism. Can you really blame them for waiting a few weeks to publically give smelter results? At what point would I agree with you? I guess about 1.5 months after the first delivery.