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bag8ger

10/04/04 10:47 PM

#17783 RE: frogdreaming #17782

frog,

I guess the terms "overvalued" and "undervalued" have no place in your universe.
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worktoplay

10/04/04 10:57 PM

#17784 RE: frogdreaming #17782

frog...Allow me to point out a couple of flies in your ointment.

Your argument is classic "Efficient Market Theory" (dates back to the 60's BTW...how old did you say you were? lol).

According to that theory, "...markets are efficient and current, meaning that prices always reflect all information..." The problem is that under that theory, it is impossible to beat the market because prices already incorporate and reflect all relevant information. So if you accept the Efficient Market Theory, there is NO SUCH THING as a "Value" stock. Morningstar will be very disturbed to here that BTW...lol

I'm surprised your buddy spook hasn't taken issue with your position as most of the opposition to this theory comes from the technical analysts, although as a Fundamentalist, I have a problem with it as well.

The biggest argument against the efficient market theory is that many investors base their expectations on past performance. And stock markets (and individual stocks) are very often driven by investor sentiment and expectation. Witness the drop in a security's price when it fails to meet "expectations" of the analysts.

In a global sense you might argue that THE MARKET is Efficient, but certainly in a micro sense, and particularly with OTCBB stocks, undervalued companies are everywhere. If you look around you can find find them. That's what EVERY Value Fund Manager is paid to do, and their success is the best evidence that the Efficient Market Theory, as applied to individual stocks, is "bunk". JMHO, as always...

Later,
W2P


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cosmiclifeform

10/04/04 11:12 PM

#17785 RE: frogdreaming #17782

Frog....Now I know for sure your imagination is working overtime...and it seems a step out of phase with reality.

DNAP just obtained majority interest in a drug company...a majority interest that will show up nicely on DNAP's assets... That's far from a company whose assets are dwindling from sellng shares...

Secondly, your comment about "gullible longs" seems to imply they are the fodder providing the shares as the "noise" for the daytraders...

This is contrary to the definition of a "long" who holds for the "long term". Are you now imaginatively re-defining the term "long"...?

Again....simple logic...simple reality:

Daytraders love to play with the pps...short term.

Long term investors are playing with the potential of the company...long term.

These are different value scenarios...both valid. That's why the terms, "short term" and "long term" were coined and used every day for investments in the stock market. Sorry to see you are having a hard time understanding this simple investor dynamic...

You also state (paraphrased): Selling shares is DNAP's "single source of income"...

Again quite imaginative and far from reality, given DNAP has a number of successful revenue generating products helping to pay the bills... I hope this was a simple omission and not an intentional lie...?

Should I take your other gross generalizations as "stretches of the imagination" and flights of fancy as well?

In any case, nice try.... Not much value when you try to spin your doom and gloom but good imaginative entertainment anyway...

Thanks!

God Bless DNAP's Vision and All DNAP Investors,

Robert