Who cares what visxlaserman said. He's one of the unintended promoters that were often WRONG.
There were so many uninformed people on the boards who thought Grifco was operating according to what they thought it should be rather than what it actually was. There were serious questions blaring bright and clear from the onset. These people refused to see it because they were blinded by ignorance and greed believing their own hype rather than taking cautious measures.