Hey Joe, not sure you'll get this. I'm not a paying member so I'm writing here. I received your PM and totally agree, some I think are delusional and others are clearly trying to manipulate people into buying worthless securities. Their as long as a blade of grass. I'm pretty sure you know at least of one I'm talking about. Anyway its their money. Besides I think your to much of a classy guy to be posting on that Board. Hey I know this may be a bit of strange request, but would you be interested in giving pointers in trading? I do pretty good but you clearly are light years advanced in knowledge than I am. Anyway off to play golf. Enjoy your day.