Blither, I will take your 2 cents-but I am not a flipper or a MM. I know in the long run that those of us who have been big believers in NNVC for so long will win the day. I just get so friggin pissed when I read web definitions of who MM's are and what their charters are compared to the few cents they steal from the rest of us. I will bide my time with the hope that I can stuff a sack full of silver dollars up NITE's rectum.