I agree... Bill seems to have the magic touch. Bill has definately learned from Hochstedler, Neubauer, Carnes and Kistler. But maybe he is tweaking their methods a bit and doing things on the up and up. Not hard to do. Have a good business sense and ethics. Obviously two traits young Jared lacks. Seriously..... Does anyone aside from a few realize how dumb Jared Hochstedler is? Maybe I am the dumb one......