When did Intel realize netburst was ending? I think the answer to that is before I left Intel in 2000:-) Seriously, do you think they did Banias JUST for mobile, or because they predicted there might be some power problems down the road. When was gelsingers first "temperature of the sun" presentation? This has been a long term Intel plan for quite a while...I think the "transition" timing has always been a question, especially with the recent Tejas fiasco... but they are well prepared for the change. --Alan