Replies to post #81216 on Biotech Values

[tinkershaw]

<<<Tell you what: you tell your private insurer that you're concerned about getting the best care and that in the future, you want to go and be checked out at the Mayo Clinic.

Then come back and tell us what they say.

Private plans are already rationed, and they're subsidized.


I guess this exemplifies what i was talking about before...>>.

It depends on what private policy you buy. I have a PPO and can go to anyone I want, Mayo Clinic, et al.

What you fail to see is that if everyone is forced on the public policy (which the current bill in the House would require in just a few years) we would all be stuck in a plan that is rationing in a manner even more aggressively then Medicare, except, there won't be private insurance to subsidize doctors and hospitals to make up for it.

Get back to me with your choice of medical care when it is Uncle Sam with a practical monopoly in the field, backed by budget deficits equal and growing to in excess to what the United States incurred to fight and win World War II.

Tinker
P.S. As an example, the bill in the House mandates that anyone who loses their coverage or changes coverage must go into the public plan (by law you are not allowed to change your policy and buy a new policy - which was very similar to the provision that Hillary Clinton had in her bill in 1993). Just one example.

[Smooth]

Private plans have networks. Many pay less when out of network, but full pay when in.

Who subsidizes private plans?

But anyway you cut it, I do not want a 1-payer(to be eventually) run by the same bunch who have bankrupted medicare, medicaid and social security. jmo and I'm stickin' to it o poorone.

[jbog]

Poorgrad,


"""Private plans are already rationed, and they're subsidized."""


Are you referring to them being subsidized by the tax treatment?? If so you might want to dig deeper keeping in mind of the fees they pay.

In NYS this year private insurers will pay a state fee of $1.1 billion plus 7.4% of all expenditures.

The latest I've read is that Mayo doesn't think much of the Government plan and is absolutely against the expansion of the medicare type system. They really want a independent "federal reserve" type panel to direct our healthcare.

[medchal]

Can't you please lay off this stuff? I've tried to, myself, but it's very annoying to stumble across your bleating of theories as fact every few days. I have written some health insurance during one of my many previous lives. Every insurer I wrote for was more than happy to see its insureds--save only the hypochondriacal--make use of the Mayo Clinic (which was no more expensive, considering the medical benefits received, than any other facility). This makes your supposedly rhetorical question nothing more than a false implication. Please desist, or, again, simply tell us that you are philosophically and politically motivated to supervise and control everyone's health care, and that your attitude has nothing to do with any facts or statistics other than those you make up.