Crashman, this is a good company with good products. However it does not seem to be a stock to be holding. I bought too high and averaged down three times and I am not back to even. They put out good and truthful PRs but the stock does nothing. I am thinking of moving elsewhere but I will keep a watch on it. I have bought "Winning Colours" and I am recommending it to others. I will be in Southern Cal later this week and I will look around for stores selling it.