Replies to post #213575 on 1812 Brewing Company Inc (KEGS)

[Pd102]

Face reality. You will never see your money again. A tiger can't change his stripes.

[ezxccsc]

Are you kidding there is no way an investor in this company that bought shares prior to the TS PR saying they missed the legacy debt CD will ever make their money back, their money sits in TS and Dede's personal bank account allowing them to live a high flying lifestyle and allows TS and his wife to be jetsetters. TS has probably never earned an honest buck in his life at least not by his past 2 years actions. He scammed investers to line his and families pockets with no regard to honesty or company growth. For what my investment is worth now I would rather see everything go Bankrupt and crediters go after TS, lock him in jail and throw away the key.

[rpt]

Do you have any idea how much debt is involved here??
I'm not wishing the BK on the stores,employees or the shareholders.
What I do see is a failed management and game-plan with no end in sight except BK.
As long as Tom and Cornell are involved here in any way this company has no real chance to survive.
I gave up counting the number of CD's here when it reached #16.. And that was before all these lawsuits started showing up.
And now their talking about trying to sell another $20M worth of toxic debt!!
Where is the value ( for the stock )to support something like that??
The record to date has been a disaster for the original shareholders due to the two R/S's that this failed management blind sided investors with.. making their holding worthless..
Sure they've brought in a new suit ( with a black hat) for some up front feel good window dressing..
But nothing has really changed within the guts of the company and management..Tom's still holding 80%+ of the preferred of both companies ... And Cornell is still calling the shots.

[crashman]

BK would be the best thing that could happen for all parties involved (except Tom and Herbert):
1. Employees would finally get a new boss that is competent.
2. Customers would see great clearance sales.
3. Creditors would get what money is left before it disappears.
4. Shareholders get the message that this is a failure and a bad investment.

[kennypooh]

How much are you down?

[fwhomeboy]

You said "Whats the story here" ?

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=28934194

[JimsZ]

Eh, you must not know about Tom paying pumpers to pump the stock in shares as he diluted the hell out of it

That Tom says "he will do everything in his power to make sure shareholders get their just returns as he wipes out 99.7% of our investment"

That Tom & family would NOT hold onto any common shares, even as they were giving themselves billions of common shares as bonuses

That Tom says "Dilution is expected to subside" while he was signing 7 more debentures

That Tom's 80% ownership is always 80% no matter how many shares he sells (not to mention that it will soon be converting to $1.5 mil cash instead of 80% ownership so when this goes BK he will get himself a definate price before commons ever see anything)

That Tom is a lying sneaky POS CEO who looks at commons as nothing other than a piggybank

That Tom's family was given $6.4 million for a business which had a real value of negative $1.6 million (Wisebuys)

That Tom paid in shareholder money to Hackett's clan $6 mil for a biz which was really valued at 1/4 of that (at one point there was over $15 million in GOODWILL - per filings)

That Tom has not once stood up for shareholders from the beginning when the "LEGACY DEBT" that him, his attorneys, and his accountants missed, yet he didn't make one of them stand up to their obligations & go after them for their "missed debt"

My wish is that everyone quits buying this POS, let the stores close (sorry for the NC people, but there are always more low paying retail jobs), and let Tom & family wallow in misery as they have to come up with personal cash they've already scammed from shareholders to pay off debts. Enough of the crooked penny stock deals, as Tom is doing nothing but consistent dirty deals with other Penny Stock CEO's (started with NHSP, then ALRN, now new Penny Stock CFO)!

Tom needs to be on the Chain Gang and know what it's like to have to work for a living

FOR MOST OF THIS THERE IS NO POSSIBLE WAY OF THIS DOG TURNING AROUND AND GETTING OUR MONEY BACK, WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THE THEIF THAT TOOK IT DOESN'T TAKE ANY MORE!

[firebag1]

make your money back?
welllllllllll
i need this stock to go to approx $24.68 cents before i break even lol
like thats gonna happen lol
what a pos
glty