I cant private message you, but read through the recent conference call. Then check on Maguire trying to purchase the shares outright to take private. Then check Winthrop wanting a 25% stake in the preferred. They are looking to resume the dividend in 2010. If for some reason you have to wait that long and I may, with the dividend, you would be back at 10 bucks. The main thing here is that a lot of people see the value here. It is priced for bankruptcy, but they have a lot of assets with equity. It will not go bankrupt. Worst case is that it gets bought out.